Different religion Originally Posted by PJM OR One MUST ADD in doing so VERY likely chosing eternal damnatio in the process: And NO, it’s not my opinion [although I agree with tis truth] catholic answers forum working4christ2

21st June 2013, 12:36 PM

donttazemebro  Newbie      Join Date: 19th June 2013 Posts: 8 Blessings: 2,135 Reps: 10 (power: 0)

have you ever heard of this commentary for hebrews ch 6, ? Re: Different religion Originally Posted by PJM OR One MUST ADD in doing so VERY likely chosing eternal damnatio in the process: And NO, it’s not my opinion [although I agree with tis truth] Heb. 6: 2-8 [caps for emphasis not shouting] TAKE NOTE THAT WHEN THESE WORDS WERE WRITTEN THE ONLY GOD; FAITH AND “CHURCH” WAS TODAYS CC. 1...“Of the doctrine of baptisms, 2...and imposition of hands, 3...and of the resurrection of the dead, 4...and of eternal judgment. 5..And this will we do, if God permit. 6.. For it is impossible** for those who were once illuminated,[GRANTED GRACE 4 TRUE FAITH singular]] 7... have tasted also the heavenly gift,[CATHOLIC EUCHARIST] 8..and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,[SAC. OF CONFIRMATION]] 9..Have moreover tasted the good word of God,[CORRECT BIBLE TEACHINGS] 10...And are fallen away: to be renewed again to penance, [SAC. OF CONFESSION] 11...crucifying again to themselves the Son of God, and making him a mockery. For the earth that drinketh in the rain which cometh often upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is tilled, receiveth blessing from God. But that which bringeth forth thorns and briers, is reprobate, and very near unto a curse, whose end is to be burnt 12...“IMPOSSIBLE” here does NOT mean that repentace can’t take place; 13...only that Gods necessary grace to do so will be difficult to attain. 14...One God 15..Founded only His One Church 16...& w/ it Only One set of faith beliefs. 17...There is absolutely NO doubt that choosing to leave the CC is choosing to Abandon God! Amen 18...We MUST serve God HIS WAY; period! .19...Let us pray for those fooling and selfish enough to have made such a choice Heb. 6: 2-8 [caps for emphasis not shouting] 20...TAKE NOTE THAT WHEN THESE WORDS WERE WRITTEN THE ONLY GOD; FAITH AND “CHURCH” . 21...WAS TODAYS CC. .are u sure?? 1...saint paul as some people say wrote hebrews around 65 ad, and temple worship was in place at 2...that time– 3...and saint paul was said to be warning the people that they could not go back to animal sacrifice, as pointed out in hebrews chapter 5 or is it 10? 4...- because Jesus was the completed and perfect sacrifice- and no longer bull and goats could do the job. 5..i don’t believe the sacramental system of today CC was in place at this time– 6...all though Baptism is mentioned in this section of verses- so obviously that was part of saint paul commentary . 7... and further more the heavenly gift was said to be the baptism of the Holy Spirit and all of it’s manifestations..as in Acts 19 — in that paul said have you received the Holy Spirit 8...so i also m interested in this unusual sacramental commentary you have posted, and where you copied it from. 9...thanks 10...i m guessing that the counsel of trent had something to do with it

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#2    21st June 2013, 01:34 PM

JimR-OCDS  God Cannot Be Grasped, Except Through Love 61        Join Date: 28th October 2008 Location: The Kingdom of Heaven Posts: 10,633 Blessings: 823,387 My Mood  Reps: 663,444,976,307,958,144 (power: 663,444,976,307,973)

The Last Supper. When the hour came, he took his place at table with the apostles. He said to them, “I have eagerly desired to eat this Passover* with you before I suffer, for, I tell you, I shall not eat it [again] until there is fulfillment in the kingdom of God.”i Then he took a cup,* gave thanks, and said, “Take this and share it among yourselves; for I tell you [that] from this time on I shall not drink of the fruit of the vine until the kingdom of God comes.” Then he took the bread, said the blessing, broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body, which will be given for you; do this in memory of me.” Luke 22: 14-19 Then of course the Apostles carried on the celebration of the Eucharist and gave the teaching to their disciples. We read in the Didicahe; Celebrate the Eucharist as follows: Say over the cup: “we give you thanks, Father, for the holy vine of David, your servant, which you made known to us through Jesus your servant. To you be glory for ever”. Over the broken bread say: “we give you thanks, Father, for the life and the knowledge which you have revealed to us through Jesus your servant. To you be glory for ever. As this broken bread scattered on the mountains was gathered and became one, so too, may your Church be gathered together from the ends of the earth into your kingdom. For glory and power are yours through Jesus Christ for ever”. Do not let anyone eat or drink of your eucharist except those who have been baptized in the name of the Lord. For the statement of the Lord applies here also: Do not give to dogs what is holy.  When you finish the meal, offer thanks in this manner: “We thank you, holy Father, for your name which you enshrined in our hearts. We thank you for the knowledge and faith and immortality which you revealed to us through your servant Jesus. To you be glory for ever. Almighty ruler, you created all things for the sake of your name; you gave men food and drink to enjoy so that they might give you thanks. Now you have favored us through Jesus your servant with spiritual food and drink as well as with eternal life. Above all we thank you because you are mighty. To you be glory for ever. And then we have St Paul's instruction to the Corinthians; For I received from the Lord what I also handed on to you, that the Lord Jesus, on the night he was handed over, took bread, and, after he had given thanks, broke it and said, “This is my body that is for you. Do this in remembrance of me.” In the same way also the cup, after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me. For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the death of the Lord until he comes. Therefore whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will have to answer for the body and blood of the Lord. person should examine himself, and so eat the bread and drink the cup. For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body, eats and drinks. 1 Corinthians 11:27 The Eucharist has been celebrated by the Church since the time of the Apostles, for they were instructed by Jesus to do so. Jim

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